Does anyone have a source for an aftermarket performance (large capacity) oil pan for a 67 Fury ? Steel or aluminum.
The front sump arrangement seems to be the limiting factor.
I have a factory one now which has been modified and an extra inch & 1/2 added to bottom of sump. Ground clearance is at bare minimum and it is kind of cobbled up. Looking for a better alternative before I go the complete custom route.
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Not really, I loooked all over & the indent for the idler is the issue....nobody make a deep pan with the indent. Except for this issue the Milodon & Moroso pans will fit the chassis. An I dea is to cut the indent out & use it in a Milodon or just heat & bend in the area on one.
It seems like somebody has one in a C but I can't remember if it's maybe Dana or Tony, maybe they'll chime in with info.
I did the same as you, took astock 187 pan & cut the sump, then used a Milodon 1/2" Lo-porfile pickup to set my depth & welded a strip back in, came out about 2" deeper. Actually it's brazed since it tended to self-fil any potential leak points. Kinda ugly but it works and when painted not too bad.
There is supposedly a 6 qt pan for the 70 6bbl Furies ( a 60# if I remember ) but nobody's ever seen one, last I talked to Dan with the 3 6bbl cars he hadn't either.
Butch pretty much covered it. The same idler notch is required to fit a big block in an A body. I keep hoping an after market pan will show up aimed at the A bodies and then we can use it too.
There is a real need, my 440 constantly sucks the pan dry!
Did he just point it out, or say that it WOULD work? It looks like it might have some clearence with the tapered sides. The upside I suppose is it is half the price of the name brand stuff. So if it did require some cutting, I would much rather cut on it than a $120 pan.
He has reported that this pan is on his car and he is very pleased. Said he had to make a very small dimple to clearance a grease/zirk fitting and that was it.
This could be a very cool find. I'll be taking some measurements tonight.
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I'll have to peek at mine again to be sure, but my A-body bog block car has a Chrysler pan (of unknown origin) that has no notch for the idler. I don't know where the pan originated but it clearly is not a C-body pan.
Since you can't go down without incurring ground clearance issues, the only way to go is back - then you are adding a drag link tube before long.
As for sucking the pan dry, I went through all that stuff and there are few ways to prevent it:
1) Restrict oil to the valve gear - this is effective if you don't over do it. 2) Throw the obligatory high volume, high pressure oil pump in the trash and use a stock pump with a high pressure spring, or a HV pump with a low pressure spring. 3) Add 1 quart of oil over full. Some will tell you this hurts HP by putting more oil into suspension, but I still think i hurts HP less than bearings running without oil pressure.
My opinion is that on stock engine which sucks the pan dry, the valve gear is getting to much oil so I would start there. On an engine with a HV pump, the pump is probably the culprit. You can't expect to suck more without having more to suck.
I ran my A-body with the above mentioned shallow pan, a HV pump with LP spring, and restricted valve gear oiling for over 660 documented high 11 second, 6600RPM 1/4 mile passes with no oiling problems. I recently took the oil pan and valley pan off after 16 years and there are absolutely no signs of lack of oil. It's going back the same way.
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What would be the right mod to a 187 pan? This would be right up my alley and I will need one also. Sheetmetal welding and fabrication was my job for many years. I could modify a 187 pan to any shape and make it look really good, but I don't have an assembled car to take measurements on. If anyone could help me with some info or pictures of exactly how it needs to be modified, I would be glad to try and make them one.